BOOM! Now High Yield is Key

What a great day in the city on Wednesday! I knew I was okay when Metro North actually ran on time to start the day. I did two segments with the good folks at Yahoo Finance, one discussing the most overused word in investing, “bubble”, and the other on the current state of the bull market. As they are posted I will share the links.

I headed to the floor of the NYSE in the afternoon for a quick stint with Bill Griffeth on Closing Bell. Since the 1980s in the FNN days, I have always been a big fan of Bill’s and I really enjoy chatting with him. The floor was crazy busy and I could hardly move around. It wasn’t, however, from floor traders and professionals doing business. There all kinds of groups visiting and moving around.

Finally, Fox Business’ Making Money with Charles Payne was my final stop and I got to spend a full hour on the show with the other guests. That was special and I will post the various links shortly.

Stocks had a huge day on Wednesday, in both directions. After Tuesday’s drubbing, the decline continued yesterday morning before firming into lunch to get back to unchanged. Then the Fed released their minutes and the market took off like a rocket ship. Frankly, stocks were so stretched to the downside to begin with and were already firming into the news. Yellen & Co. just threw gallons of gas on a tiny little fire and the inferno ensued.

At the end of the day the major indices gained back what they lost on Tuesday plus a little bit. I would have liked the internals to be a little stronger, but you can’t have everything.

The big question now is, “Was that THE bottom or A bottom?”

The jury is out at this time, but for sure, the bulls have the ball now. Let’s see where they are at 4pm today. Let’s watch leadership emerge.

High yield bonds funds, one of my most important canaries, all closed down yesterday which is the norm on a day when stocks  take off during the afternoon from a decline. I would be shocked if funds like PHYDX, NNHIX, MWHYX and JAHYX do not show gains when their prices are posted tonight. If these funds are not up at least .20% or more, that will be very worrisome for the intermediate-term.

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History Says 15% Chance of 8-11% Decline Right Now

Today (Wednesday) I am excited to head to New York City for a day full of media (and a tiny bit of shopping). My first stop is with the good folks at Yahoo Finance to create two or three segments on what’s hot now. I know for sure we will do one on market bubbles which should be controversial and interesting. I imagine there will be one about the bull market or Fed and then one on the hot story of the day, like today’s thrashing in the stock market. It’s always a good time to visit Jeff Macke.
From there I head to the New York Stock Exchange for a 3:45pm interview on CNBC’s Closing Bell. After all these years, I am still wowed when I visit the floor. Finally, I am thrilled to join Fox Business’ Making Money with Charles Payne for a whole hour from 6pm to 7pm. Sometime in between, I hope to buy a suit which I am told that I desperately need.

The short-term picture remains murky for the next few weeks, but looking out beyond that, markets should regain their solid footing and march higher later this quarter. October has a reputation of being a bad month for stocks. Most people recall the great crash of 1929, crash of 1987, mini crash of 1989, crash of 1997, crash of 1998 and Lehman collapse of 2008, which all occurred in October. Keep in mind that some macro news event usually was given the credit (or blame) for causing the decline, isn’t that always the case? In a vacuum, October looks like a very scary month, but that would be a big mistake!

Taking a wider view, you realize that in almost every case above, stocks were already in decline before October began. The month actually acted as an accelerator rather than an initiator. Furthermore, October was most often a turning point for stocks in that declines continued into October, bottomed mid to late month and then a significant rally began. You would be hard pressed to find many examples of times when October did not see at least an interim low.

Given that stocks peaked last month, I went back and researched how the market behaved in the fourth quarter after a new high in September. The results may surprise you!

Since the bull market began in 2009, the only significant Q4 decline was in 2012, -8%, or 1/5 times(20%).

Since 2000, besides 2012, 2007 was the only other year. The Dow peaked in October and declined 11%. That’s 2/14 or 14% of the time.

There were no Q4 declines from a September or October peak in all of the 1990s! Read that line over again.

1989 saw the mini crash of 9% from an October peak and 1980 had a very unusual 10% from a November peak.

Since 1980, there five significant Q4 declines from a high or just 15% of the time.

So here we are on October 7, having seen a September new high peak heading into Q4. History says there is a 15% chance of 8-11% decline from the September Dow high of 17,280. If this is one of those times, the Dow is looking at a possible downside range of 15,379 to 15,898. Anything else on the downside would be a 35+ year precedent setter. 

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